Sometimes we need to step out and just do that “thing” we have been putting off.   That thing you know will help someone.   So I pondered long enough and finally said to myself – “go ahead and jump”.   I just jumped!

Welcome to the inaugural episode of the Make New Rules Podcast.   In this episode, I take everyone back to where the name came from and my 40-year career and background that lead to me starting my coaching business 15 years ago.

In the podcast, I interviewed myself, just like I will my guest.  The goal is to add value and serve others -the one BIG thing that guides me .. it is my passion and my purpose.  

I hope you enjoy my 20-minute discussion about my journey and what I want to give you.   Listen for a few nuggets that will help you in your journey.

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Below is the link to the podcast.